The quick analogy I use is that Isaac Newton wrote out what gravity was. "Because if you get it to be true, then it has this extra resonance to it. He says the key is always trying to write something that's true. I think that's the grounding piece to optimism that makes it something that people believe in and that is true and sincere." So like, I'm crushed, and in the face of that, choosing and finding a way to stay up. "If you hear a song like 'Keep Your Head Up,' it's not just like, 'Be happy!'" he says. He points out that most of the "feel-good" songs he's famous for are actually grounded in a lot of pain, which is what makes them truly connect with a broad audience. But if it is rebellious against negativity, it starts to gain some legs for me."
"The word 'positive' inherently is a little cheesy, I think. "Happy for happy's sake is not super authentic," he says.
Grammer acknowledges that it was difficult to find positives in the pandemic, even for him.
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